Jews Hate Christians

The scripture goes on to say that the Canaanites named the place where they saw this great mourning for a Hebrew. Abel Mizraim which means the meadow of Egypt. Now lets go to one of the most famous stories of the Hebrews in Egypt, and that’s the story of Moses. Many many years after the death of Joseph, Jacob and all the Hebrews that entered Egypt during the time Joseph was viceroy. The Hebrew population in Egypt grew tremendously, and because of this they were no longer looked at as friendly neighbors. They were now seen as hostile enemies. So the Egyptians enslaved the Hebrews. (Exodus 1:7-13). Because the Hebrews had a population growth the Egyptians also decided to enact their own form of birth control. Pharaoh gave a decree that all Hebrew males be killed at birth. Now we must keep this point in mind because this takes us directly to the story of Moses. Moses was an Hebrew Israelite from the tribe of Levi (exodus 2:1-3). Moses spent 40 years in the house of pharaoh (Acts 7:23) he passed as the Pharaoh’s grandson (exodus 2: 6, 10), during the time Pharaoh order all Hebrew males to be killed at birth. So Moses had to look just like Pharaoh. Meaning, Pharaoh was a black-skinned descendant of Ham, so Moses had to look like a black-skinned descendant of Ham also. Many Scholars say that the Pharaoh that was on the throne of Egypt at the time of Moses birth was Pharaoh Seti I. He was father of Rameses II (also known as the Pharaoh of the oppression aka Rameses the great). George Rawlinson, an English author wrote a book entitled “History of Egypt” on pg 252 he gives a description of Seti I, he states: ‘THAT SETI’S FACE WAS THOROUGHLY AFRICAN HE HAS A STORMY FACE WITH A DEPRESSED FLAT NOSE THICK LIPS AND HEAVY CHIN.” (This is how pictures in his tomb looked), this has to be the same description of Moses. Because he was raised in the house of Pharaoh, at the time Pharaoh himself, ordered all Hebrew males to be killed at birth. If the Israelites were a white skinned people how could Moses the Hebrew survive in the house of Pharoah among black-skinned Egyptians for 40 years, and go unnoticed? How could Pharaoh face his people and rule over them if he gives a decree, to kill all Hebrew males. But yet he knows he has one living in his house. Moses survived because he was a black-skinned man just as the Egyptians were. Just like the Canaanites couldn’t tell the Hebrews from the Egyptians. Pharaoh couldn’t either, or else Moses would have been killed instantly. Now let’s look at a COMMON SENSE view point of the ONLY color the Egyptians had to have been: The highest temperature ever recorded ON EARTH was on the border of Egypt and Libya (Azizia Libya in 1922); was officially recorded at 136 degrees F. and the temperatures can go up to almost 150 degrees F in many parts Egypt! Anyone who is Indigenous to Egypt (a descendant of many generations of Egyptians), must be What Color? Before you answer, remember this requires a “COMMON SENSE” answer not a Racist Movie Industry one! “WHITE EGYPTIANS,” how DUMB can such a concept be!! There are highly educated people that believe this STUPIDIY because of what they see in the movies combined with their own Racial stereo types!! Remember GOD’S description of His people ISRAEL: Amos|9:7 Are ye not as children of the Ethiopians unto me, Ochildren of Israel saith the LORD? (Ethiopians are BLACK)!! The people that Control Egypt today and claiming to be the descendants of the original Egyptians are NOT EGYPTIANS AT ALL, but are the descendants of the Islamic warriors from Mohammed’s conquering armies who conquered all of Northern Africa and drove most of the Black Africans out to central and southern Africa Centuries ago (who would not convert to Islam),and still control this area today. That’s why their skin color is too”Light” for a land area where the “World’s Highest Temperatures” were recorded; the Africans in central and southern Africa (where the temperature averages 30 degrees cooler), have BLACK SKIN. So it stands to reason that these people are NOT indigenous to an area where the temperatures can climb to over a 140 degrees F., even though they are claiming that they are the descendants Of the Original “BLACK” Egyptians which contradicts all REASON, COMMON SENSE, and GENETICS! Question: are the people in ISRAEL today true Israelites? Lets go to Scripture to see what it says: Isaiah|11:6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb Isaiah|11:7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox. Isaiah|11:11 And it shall come to pass (”IN THAT DAY”), that the Lord shall set his hand again the “SECOND” time (the FIRST time was from Egypt with the Ten Plagues), to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea. Isaiah|11:12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth. So God is saying that when Israel is returned to the land (In That Day) “A LION WILL EAT STRAW LIKE AN OX”, the people that are in Israel today have been there for over HALF A CENTURY and I have yet to see any LIONS EAT STRAW (and neither have anyone else)!! There is some interesting Scripture in The Book of Revelation that gives a clue as to who are not Israelites! Take a look: Revelation|2:9 I know thy works, and “TRIBULATION, and POVERTY,” (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. Revelation|3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of SATAN WHICH SAY THEY ARE JEWS, AND ARE NOT, BUT DO LIE; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee. Notice what God says about the “TRIBULATION and POVERTY” of the true Israelites (Rev.2:9) (Todays Jews are the RICHEST and most Influential Group on Earth, and and have NEVER been in Tribulation or Poverty anytime in recent or past history), that there are a people calling themselves Jews “BUT ARE NOT,” but are of the SYNAGOGUE of Satan. Notice the word SYNAGOGUE, now who in the world uses the word SYNAGOGUE to represent their House of Worship? Any child of the Scriptures knows the answer to that one!! If you pay close attention to what is being said here: THAT THE FAKE JEWS WHO’S HOUSE OF WORSHIP IS CALLED A SYNAGOGUE, IN THE LAST DAYS, SHALL BE MADE BY GOD TO COME AND WORSHIP AT THE FEET OF THE TRUE ISRAELITES IN THE SIGHT OF THE WHOLE WORLD!! (Revelation 3:9) It should be painfully clear to many who are reading this work that the world has been misled with LIES as to the actual color and identity of the True Israelites. The list of those responsible for this deception is very long and extends back many centuries, to mention just a few: “Satan which deceiveth the whole world,” (Rev 12:9) painters like Leonardo Da Vinci and the many religious works he painted, the movie industry influence from movies such as Cecil B. DeMill’s Ten Commandments and Every other religious movie that has come after it. Add to that list our own personal racal stereotyping, and the most misleading of all, the belief that the descendants of the original Israelites returned to Israel in 1948, when the Bible CLEARLY tells (anyone who would take the time to read it), that the true Israelites will not be returned to that land until After the Second coming of Christ!! (Isaiah chapter 11) is just one of the MANY places in Scripture where you can read this! Why can’t the world see it’s misidentification of the True Israelites? The answer is in the following Scripture: Deut.32:26 (”I said I would scatter them into corners, I would make the remembrance of them to cease from among men”)! God made the identity of the True Israelites anonymous because they are under His CURSE for breaking His Laws and being disobedient, (Deuteronomy 28:15-48),and will be so until the Second coming of Christ. God did not want anyone to take the following Scripture to heart and show the “True Israelites” FAVORS as many in the world do for the “Fake Jews” that entered Israel in 1948 claiming to be the descendants of the Original Israelites! Millions of dollars are collected and given to these people every year along with over 15 Billion Dollars of American Tax money (about $2200 for each citizen in Israel), because those doing the donating think they will get a Blessing from God because of their misinterpretation of the following Scripture: Gen. 12:3 “And I will BLESS them that bless you, and CURSE him that curses you!” The above Scripture will NOT come true until After the Second coming of Christ which is when the TRUE ISRAELITES will be returned to the land of Israel (Isaiah 11:6-12), so those collecting money for Israel are collecting money for THE WRONG PEOPLE AT THE WRONG TIME!! Lev. 19:33 And if a stranger sojourn with you in your land, you shall not vex him. Lev. 19:34 But the stranger that dwells with you shall be to you as one born among you, and you shall love him as yourself; for you were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your Jacobseed7@comcast.net Christians NOT Jews Are God’s Chosen People! Christians NOT Jews Are God's Chosen People!, Jews & Their Guilt Of Deicide, State Of Israel: Not Biblical Prophecy!, Why The Jews Hate Jesus Christ CHRISTIANS *NOT* JEWS ARE GOD’S CHOSEN PEOPLE! By Brother Nathanael Kapner, Copyright 2008-2011 Articles May Be Reproduced Only With Authorship of Br Nathanael Kapner & Link To Real Jew News Support Brother Nathanael! HERE Online donation system by ClickandPledge Or Send Your Contribution To: Brother Nathanael Kapner; PO Box 1242; Frisco CO 80443 E-mail: bronathanael@yahoo.com JEWS HAVE BEGUILED Zionist-Christians into believing that they, the Jews, are God’s “chosen people.” Jews tell Zionist-Christians that when God said to Abraham, “I will bless those who bless thee,” that He would withhold His blessings upon Christians unless they support Israel! How utterly unbiblical! Are Christians to bless the murderers and blasphemers of Jesus Christ? St John the Baptist did not teach an unconditional blessing upon the Jews when he rebuked them, saying, “Do not say you have Abraham for your father, for God is able to raise up from these stones sons of Abraham.” (Matthew 3). St Peter did not teach an unconditional blessing upon the Jews when he rebuked them, saying, “You crucified the Lord of glory and must repent and be baptized.” (Acts 2). THE BIBLE TEACHES that the Christian Church is the “Israel of God” *not* Jews. St Paul wrote in his Epistle To The Romans: “They are not all Israel who are of Israel.” The true Israel are the Christians who have embraced the coming of the Messiah Jesus. The false Israel are the Jews who rejected the coming of the Messiah Jesus. St Paul designates 3 classes of people: 1) The Jews: Rejecters of God & His Promises. 2) The Gentiles: Rejecters of God & the Bible. 3) The Israel of God: The Christian Church. (I Cor 10; Galatians 6) And St Paul teaches that the Christians are the seed of Abraham *not* Jews, saying, “If ye are Christ’s then are ye Abraham’s seed and heirs according to the promise.” (Romans 3) ZIONIST-CHRISTIANS SUPPORT THE MURDER of Arab children. The Lord Jesus Christ warned: “Whosoever shall offend one of these little ones it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea.” (St Mark 9). On January 31 2008, Amnesty International reported: — “Of some 1,190 people killed in Israel’s Lebanon invasion of 2006, the vast majority were civilians not involved in the hostilities, among them hundreds of children. The majority of properties targeted in Israeli strikes were likewise civilian.” — Here. To be a Christian is to care for Christ’s little ones. The Jews look upon Christ’s little ones as sub-humans, as taught by their hate-filled Talmud. We who confess to be Christians must rebuke the Jews and demand that they repent! ___________________________________ For More See: “Jews Are NOT God’s Chosen People” Click Here And: “State Of Israel Is NOT A Fulfillment Of Biblical Prophecy” Click Here CLICK: Brother Nathanael…Street Evangelist! Support Brother Nathanael! 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CHRISTIANS *NOT* JEWS ARE GOD’S CHOSEN PEOPLE!
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JEWS HAVE BEGUILED Zionist-Christians into believing that they, the Jews, are God’s “chosen people.”
Jews tell Zionist-Christians that when God said to Abraham, “I will bless those who bless thee,” that He would withhold His blessings upon Christians unless they support Israel! How utterly unbiblical!
Are Christians to bless the murderers and blasphemers of Jesus Christ?
St John the Baptist did not teach an unconditional blessing upon the Jews when he rebuked them, saying, “Do not say you have Abraham for your father, for God is able to raise up from these stones sons of Abraham.” (Matthew 3).
St Peter did not teach an unconditional blessing upon the Jews when he rebuked them, saying, “You crucified the Lord of glory and must repent and be baptized.” (Acts 2).


THE BIBLE TEACHES that the Christian Church is the “Israel of God” *not* Jews.
St Paul wrote in his Epistle To The Romans: “They are not all Israel who are of Israel.” The true Israel are the Christians who have embraced the coming of the Messiah Jesus. The false Israel are the Jews who rejected the coming of the Messiah Jesus.
St Paul designates 3 classes of people:
1) The Jews: Rejecters of God & His Promises.
2) The Gentiles: Rejecters of God & the Bible.
3) The Israel of God: The Christian Church. (I Cor 10; Galatians 6)
And St Paul teaches that the Christians are the seed of Abraham *not* Jews, saying, “If ye are Christ’s then are ye Abraham’s seed and heirs according to the promise.” (Romans 3)


ZIONIST-CHRISTIANS SUPPORT THE MURDER of Arab children. The Lord Jesus Christ warned: “Whosoever shall offend one of these little ones it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea.” (St Mark 9).
On January 31 2008, Amnesty International reported:
— “Of some 1,190 people killed in Israel’s Lebanon invasion of 2006, the vast majority were civilians not involved in the hostilities, among them hundreds of children. The majority of properties targeted in Israeli strikes were likewise civilian.” — Here.
To be a Christian is to care for Christ’s little ones. The Jews look upon Christ’s little ones as sub-humans, as taught by their hate-filled Talmud. We who confess to be Christians must rebuke the Jews and demand that they repent!

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E-mail: bronathanael@yahoo.com Send this article/post as a PDF attachment to Enter email address SendPDF | PDF Creator | PDF Converter BROTHER NATHANAEL @ FEBRUARY 3, 2008 « America Is Run By JewsThe Jewish Thought Police Are Here! » 56 Comments Aristrobulus VounoropulosMarch 30, 2008 @ 11:02 pm There is strong evidence emerging that Larry Silverstein, the property owner of the World Trade Center Towers and the number 7 building, had experts from Israel load the towers and 7. Please check out YouTube under “Larry Silverstein says “We decided to ‘pull’ it” You’d be surprised at the cruelty and desregard for life! I am! mikeApril 1, 2008 @ 6:20 pm why does the state of Israel not reconise a simple truth? There are several million dollars waiting to build an Embassy near Jerusalem where our world leaders will meet the people who engineered all life on this planet a long time ago.Creating a human race is as predictable as creating a baby and as repeatable.There have been millions of races created on this very ancient palnet/living machine, which have disappeared for the self-evident reasons we see on this planet today- nuclear war over population environmental degradation to name but three.Look at the past throught the scientific eyes of the 21st century - if we can do what we are doing and extrapolate forwards, wh should there not be others who can do the same? All the religions without exception are simpl different people at different time given the same message designed for the level of the society AT THA TIME. Come on wake up respect the past but do not live in it - we are alone but not on our own MikeApril 2, 2008 @ 6:32 am Earlier Comment in Dutch Waarom heeft de staat Israël niet reconise een eenvoudige waarheid? Er zijn verschillende miljoen dollar te wachten op een ambassade bouwen bij Jeruzalem waar onze wereldleiders zal voldoen aan de mensen die engineered alle leven op deze planeet een lange tijd ago.Creating een menselijk ras is zo voorspelbaar als het creëren van een baby en als repeatable.There zijn Miljoenen races gemaakt op deze zeer oude palnet / levende machine, die zijn verdwenen voor de vanzelfsprekende redenen zien we op deze planeet vandaag-nucleaire oorlog bevolking over het milieu te three.Look naam, maar op het verleden dacht de wetenschappelijke ogen van de 21e eeuw - als we kunnen doen wat we aan het doen zijn en extrapoleren naar voren, wh moet er niet anderen die hetzelfde doen? Alle religies zijn zonder uitzondering simpl verschillende mensen op verschillende tijd krijgt hetzelfde bericht ontworpen voor het niveau van de samenleving AT THA TIME. Kom op wakker te respecteren het verleden, maar leven niet in het - we Alleen zijn, maar niet op onze eigen MikeApril 2, 2008 @ 6:34 am Earlier comment in German Warum hat der Staat Israel nicht reconise eine einfache Wahrheit? Es gibt mehrere Millionen US-Dollar warten, um eine Botschaft in der Nähe von Jerusalem, wo unsere führenden Politiker der Welt treffen sich die Menschen, die technisch alles Leben auf diesem Planeten eine lange Zeit ago.Creating eine menschliche Rasse ist so vorhersagbar wie ein Baby und als repeatable.There wurden Millionen von Rassen erstellt auf dieser sehr alten palnet / Wohnen Maschine, die verschwunden sind für die Selbstverständlichkeit Gründen sehen wir heute auf diesem Planeten-Atomkriegs Bevölkerung über Umweltzerstörung zu nennen, aber three.Look in der Vergangenheit dachte, die wissenschaftliche Augen der 21. Jahrhunderts -, wenn wir tun können, was wir tun und nach vorne extrapolieren, wh sollte es nicht andere, die das gleiche tun können? Alle Religionen ohne Ausnahme sind einfach verschiedene Menschen auf verschiedenen Zeit die gleiche Botschaft, die für die Ebene der Gesellschaft AT THA TIME. Come on aufwachen Achtung der Vergangenheit, aber nicht in ihr leben - wir Sind aber nicht allein auf unsere eigenen MikeApril 2, 2008 @ 6:47 am Earlier comment for Spanish readers Por qué el estado de Israel no reconise una simple verdad? Hay varios millones de dólares a la espera de construir una Embajada, cerca de Jerusalén, donde nuestro mundo se reunirán dirigentes de la gente que la ingeniería toda la vida en este planeta desde hace mucho tiempo ago.Creating una raza humana es tan predecible como la creación de un bebé y que han sido repeatable.There Millones de las razas creadas sobre esta antigua palnet / máquina que viven, que han desaparecido de las evidentes razones que vemos en este planeta de hoy-la guerra nuclear sobre la población a la degradación del medio ambiente three.Look nombre, pero en el pasado el pensamiento científico de los ojos Siglo 21 - si podemos hacer lo que estamos haciendo y extrapolar hacia delante, wh si hay otros que no se puede hacer lo mismo? Todas las religiones sin excepción se simpl diferentes personas en diferentes momento dado el mismo mensaje diseñado para el nivel de la sociedad AT THA TIEMPO. Vamos despertar respeto el pasado, pero no viven en ella - nos Pero no están solos en nuestro propio Spear of DensityApril 9, 2008 @ 8:36 pm mike, i agree that you are the result of a genetic experiment. I am not sure if it went bad. If you would translate this, maybe someone from another part of the world, or maybe even the aliens, would tell us! Spear of DensityApril 9, 2008 @ 8:40 pm Ed, father of lies ring a ding? How can a basically non believing nosy internet creature like you go so hot and heavy with Christ’s “sword”? Brother Nathan demonstrates precisely why things always seem to go south for Jews .. oy vey. “Lemon tree oh so pretty and the lemon smell so sweet but the fruit of the old lemon tree is im-possible to eat ..” doo do doooo do doo doo doo … Pope Affirms Zionist Noahide Laws In NYC! | Real Jew NewsMay 2, 2008 @ 1:50 am […] In his recent visit to America from April 15-20 2008, Pope Benedict met with representatives of the Jewish community on the eve of the Jewish Passover on April 18 2008 at 5 PM Here and reiterated that they are God’s “chosen” - of which any thinking Sunday School student would easily refute Here! […] TimMay 2, 2008 @ 8:14 pm And He said to them, “When I sent you without money bag, knapsack, and sandals, did you lack anything?” So they said, “Nothing.” Then He said to them, “But now, he who has a money bag, let him take it, and likewise a knapsack; and he who has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one. For I say to you that this which is written must still be accomplished in Me: ‘And He was numbered with the transgressors.’ For the things concerning Me have an end.” So they said, “Lord, look, here are two swords.” And He said to them, “It is enough.” -Luke 22:35-38 And, behold, one of them which were with Jesus stretched out his hand, and drew his sword, and struck a servant of the high priest’s, and smote off his ear. {52} Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into its place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:51-52 We’ve heard many a tale on these quotes. I believe(The Lord put into My heart) That Jesus had to rebuke Paul, or the Sannheddrin would of never crucified Him. Fulfilling the Prophecies of our Father. I donot believe to this Day Our Lord who loves Us. Demand we should stand defenceless to our Tormenters. I also believe jesus meant by “Those who live by the sword, shall die by it” That is those who Oppress by it. Not those who seek rightful defense of the innocent, in His Name. Jesus also professes that he hopes to see some of Us survive the coming tribulations. How else will we do this. If we donot fight for our very lives? Yes we are Flesh. And our Father in heaven knows this. But some of Us understand his will and will fight with His spirit in our hearts to protect the innocent. And We will be forgiven. Why I Left Judaism Judaism Articles, Confessions Of A Former Jew, Why I Left Judaism, Jews & Their Guilt Of Deicide, Why The Jews Hate Jesus Christ WHY I LEFT JUDAISM By Brother Nathanael Kapner, Copyright 2008-2010 Articles May Be Reproduced Only With Authorship of Br Nathanael Kapner & Link To Real Zionist News (SM) Support Brother Nathanael! HERE Online donation system by ClickandPledge Or Send Your Contribution To: Brother Nathanael Kapner; PO Box 1242; Frisco CO 80443 E-mail: bronathanael@yahoo.com GROWING UP JEWISH was a sad event for me. I always felt like something was missing. My parents, both Jewish, enrolled me in Sabbath School when I was 6 years old. When I was 7 they enrolled me in Hebrew School which met every Wednesday afternoon. Our Sabbath School curriculum, which went from 1st to 10th grades, was centered on learning the entire Old Testament, portions of the Talmud, and Jewish History. It also included attending Sabbath services which began on Friday nights and continued Saturday mornings. For our Bar Mitzvah curriculum we studied “Comparative Religions.” But we were not allowed to study Christianity. More on this later. I recall my parents taking me to my cousin’s Bar Mitzvah at a farther part of the City of Pittsburgh, where I grew up. We entered into an old, musty smelling synagogue which had the Jewish Star of David everywhere. After only 10 minutes of being inside, I got very nauseated and wanted to vomit. The synagogue seemed to have a deathly pall about it. And I couldn’t bear looking at the Jewish Star everywhere. I learned later that the Star of David is an occult symbol that was popularized by the Kabbalists of the 13th Century in Europe. It was then at the age of 8, through my experience in that old, musty smelling synagogue, that I knew that Judaism was a religion of death. THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE I GREW UP was made up of Jews, Catholics, and Protestants. Every year at Christmas time in the 1950’s, all of our Gentile neighbors put up the Nativity Scene on their lawns. I simply loved looking at the Nativity Scene! And I wanted to know more about Jesus Christ. But we were forbidden to even mention Jesus Christ’s name unless we used it as a curse word. A boyhood friend of mine named Ricky Rago was a Roman Catholic. One afternoon after playing baseball, Ricky Rago invited me over to his house and we went into his bedroom to play Monopoly. All over his walls were pictures of the 12 Stations Of The Cross. I was 10 years old at the time and these pictures of Christ’s sufferings made a deep impression on me. I promised myself that one day I would learn the meaning of these sufferings of Jesus Christ. I PROMISED TO TELL YOU how we were not allowed to study Christianity in our Bar Mitzvah class. The teacher, (I will never forget this scene as long as I live), Mrs Schecter, who was built like a bull dog, got up in front of the class and said: — “Now children. We have studied Buddhism, Hinduism, and Islam. But we are not going to study Christianity. You see children, Christianity was made up by a manic-depressant by the name of Saul of Tarsus who wanted to blame the crucifixion of a criminal named Jesus Christ on the Jewish people. And Saul of Tarsus you should know was a “self-hating” Jew. He hated being a Jew so much that he even changed his name to “Paul!” Now it happened dear children that 500 years after Jesus Christ was crucified, the Roman Catholic Church took the crazed writings of Saul of Tarsus and made a religion out of it. They called this religion, “Christianity.” Thus we are not going to bother studying this false and hate-mongering religion.” — I was very disappointed and said to myself, “How could so many people over 1700 years base their lives of virtuous conduct, (as I saw it), upon a man’s ‘crazed writings?’” When I got home I asked my father what he thought about Saul of Tarsus. My father answered, “Saul of Tarsus tried to convince Jews to become Christians. But we are born Jews and we should die as Jews.” I FINALLY LEFT my home and synagogue to go to college in Los Angeles in 1968. But I forgot about my promise. It wasn’t until 1970 that one of the Jesus Freaks who were very popular at that time gave me a New Testament. I opened it up and started reading the Gospel of St Matthew. I was struck by the “Jewishness” of the writing. And I soon found myself captivated by the person of Jesus Christ! He was a man who rubbed shoulders with the common people. He was a man who taught the people from every-day life experiences. And what I liked most of all about Him was when He said to the religious leaders, “The harlots and tax collectors go into the kingdom of heaven before you.” I could almost see Him saying this to Mrs Schecter who called Him a “criminal.” I simply found myself falling in love with Jesus Christ! I devoured the entire New Testament from cover to cover and could not put it down. I did read about the sufferings of Jesus Christ and it made me cry. And I did read the ‘crazed writings’ of St Paul and knew that there was nothing ‘crazed’ about it at all - but were words of hope and purpose. I said to myself, “Judaism is bankrupt. But the Christian message is full of promise and life.” When I finished the last Chapter of the Book of Revelations, now at the age of 21, I got down on my knees, wept, and asked Jesus Christ to forgive all my sins and be my Saviour. Soon afterward I met an old pious woman at a Church gathering who came up to me and said, “God has so much for you and so much for you to do.” Like a cryptic oracle, long awaiting its coming, I am just beginning, 37 years later, to see this prophecy come true. ___________________________________ For More See: “Christians NOT Jews Are God’s Chosen People” Click Here And: “Jews Are NOT The Chosen People” Click Here And: “State Of Israel: Not Biblical Prophecy!” Click Here CLICK: Brother Nathanael! Street Evangelist! Support Brother Nathanael! 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GROWING UP JEWISH was a sad event for me. I always felt like something was missing.
My parents, both Jewish, enrolled me in Sabbath School when I was 6 years old. When I was 7 they enrolled me in Hebrew School which met every Wednesday afternoon.
Our Sabbath School curriculum, which went from 1st to 10th grades, was centered on learning the entire Old Testament, portions of the Talmud, and Jewish History. It also included attending Sabbath services which began on Friday nights and continued Saturday mornings. For our Bar Mitzvah curriculum we studied “Comparative Religions.” But we were not allowed to study Christianity. More on this later.
I recall my parents taking me to my cousin’s Bar Mitzvah at a farther part of the City of Pittsburgh, where I grew up. We entered into an old, musty smelling synagogue which had the Jewish Star of David everywhere.
After only 10 minutes of being inside, I got very nauseated and wanted to vomit. The synagogue seemed to have a deathly pall about it. And I couldn’t bear looking at the Jewish Star everywhere. I learned later that the Star of David is an occult symbol that was popularized by the Kabbalists of the 13th Century in Europe. It was then at the age of 8, through my experience in that old, musty smelling synagogue, that I knew that Judaism was a religion of death.


THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE I GREW UP was made up of Jews, Catholics, and Protestants. Every year at Christmas time in the 1950’s, all of our Gentile neighbors put up the Nativity Scene on their lawns. I simply loved looking at the Nativity Scene! And I wanted to know more about Jesus Christ. But we were forbidden to even mention Jesus Christ’s name unless we used it as a curse word.
A boyhood friend of mine named Ricky Rago was a Roman Catholic. One afternoon after playing baseball, Ricky Rago invited me over to his house and we went into his bedroom to play Monopoly.
All over his walls were pictures of the 12 Stations Of The Cross. I was 10 years old at the time and these pictures of Christ’s sufferings made a deep impression on me. I promised myself that one day I would learn the meaning of these sufferings of Jesus Christ.


I PROMISED TO TELL YOU how we were not allowed to study Christianity in our Bar Mitzvah class. The teacher, (I will never forget this scene as long as I live), Mrs Schecter, who was built like a bull dog, got up in front of the class and said:
“Now children. We have studied Buddhism, Hinduism, and Islam. But we are not going to study Christianity. You see children, Christianity was made up by a manic-depressant by the name of Saul of Tarsus who wanted to blame the crucifixion of a criminal named Jesus Christ on the Jewish people. And Saul of Tarsus you should know was a “self-hating” Jew. He hated being a Jew so much that he even changed his name to “Paul!”
Now it happened dear children that 500 years after Jesus Christ was crucified, the Roman Catholic Church took the crazed writings of Saul of Tarsus and made a religion out of it. They called this religion, “Christianity.” Thus we are not going to bother studying this false and hate-mongering religion.”

I was very disappointed and said to myself, “How could so many people over 1700 years base their lives of virtuous conduct, (as I saw it), upon a man’s ‘crazed writings?’”
When I got home I asked my father what he thought about Saul of Tarsus. My father answered, “Saul of Tarsus tried to convince Jews to become Christians. But we are born Jews and we should die as Jews.”


I FINALLY LEFT my home and synagogue to go to college in Los Angeles in 1968. But I forgot about my promise. It wasn’t until 1970 that one of the Jesus Freaks who were very popular at that time gave me a New Testament. I opened it up and started reading the Gospel of St Matthew. I was struck by the “Jewishness” of the writing. And I soon found myself captivated by the person of Jesus Christ!
He was a man who rubbed shoulders with the common people. He was a man who taught the people from every-day life experiences. And what I liked most of all about Him was when He said to the religious leaders, “The harlots and tax collectors go into the kingdom of heaven before you.” I could almost see Him saying this to Mrs Schecter who called Him a “criminal.” I simply found myself falling in love with Jesus Christ!
I devoured the entire New Testament from cover to cover and could not put it down. I did read about the sufferings of Jesus Christ and it made me cry. And I did read the ‘crazed writings’ of St Paul and knew that there was nothing ‘crazed’ about it at all - but were words of hope and purpose. I said to myself, “Judaism is bankrupt. But the Christian message is full of promise and life.”
When I finished the last Chapter of the Book of Revelations, now at the age of 21, I got down on my knees, wept, and asked Jesus Christ to forgive all my sins and be my Saviour.
Soon afterward I met an old pious woman at a Church gathering who came up to me and said, “God has so much for you and so much for you to do.” Like a cryptic oracle, long awaiting its coming, I am just beginning, 37 years later, to see this prophecy come true.

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But I was having a great time, for I was telling all the Jewish shrinks and rabbis all about how they missed the coming of the Jewish Messiah! Finally, my mother dragged my father, myself, and me to a Family Counseling session. The psychologist finally said to my mother, “It looks like the one here with the big problem is you.” Well, that ended this ordeal for a while. Then my mother started talking in Yiddish a lot which she never did before. And when I would try to leave for Church Sunday mornings she would sit in front of the Front Door and not let me out! Jewish mothers can be really tough. But I worked on my mother, my grandmother, (my mom’s mother), my aunt, (my mom’s sister), and after many years of showing them the OT prophecies of the coming of the Messiah, they all embraced Jesus Christ! (My mother got baptized as an Orthodox Christian 1 year before she died! So, I will see her in heaven! Brother Nathanael MikeMarch 30, 2008 @ 10:14 am You are entitled to your opinions, however, you call yourself a Brother indicating that you are a follower of a great faith. It sounds that you live by the sword not by the word of Jesus. For some reason, I feel that you over embelish your reasons for turning away from Judaism, but that is your peroagative. Jewish person believes in Chesed I would not expect you to understand this as I suspect that your religious philosophy did not cover Hebrew. It means “Kindness” to all people, a trait which you obviously lack. Shaom. adminMarch 30, 2008 @ 10:37 am Obviously dear MIKE, you never read the Hebrew Prophets. Truth sometimes is quite harsh. It’s Books of the Prophets is called in the Bible “Nevi’im [× ×‘×™××™]” by the way. They did not mince words but were stoned, sawn asunder, and persecuted relentlessly by Jews like you who are afraid of the truth. Brother Nathanael Kapner Former Jew NOW Orthodox Christian Speaking TRUTH ‘Why I Left Judaism’ by Brother Nathanel Kapner « The Ugly TruthMarch 30, 2008 @ 10:37 am […] 30, 2008 Why I Left Judaism Posted by crescentandcross Filed in […] MichaelMarch 30, 2008 @ 11:28 am Hi Brother Nathanael, Hope all is well. If Jews met Jesus in person today-I think most Jews would love him- he was a great guy! As a Christian who is Gentile-I think a lot of Jews are missing out on a wonderful message of love from Jesus who is my Messiah. I believe many Jews are a little brainwashed to have negative views toward Jesus and his message. I have met a couple of Jews who confided to me that they believe Jesus is the Messiah, but they fear being shunned by their fellow Jews and keep it to themselves. Keep up the ‘good’ work. Sincerely, Michael Robert CardilloMarch 30, 2008 @ 1:49 pm As usual an excellent article. At least like most Jews I know you have a great sense of humour as well!!! Good job!!! LyndaMarch 30, 2008 @ 2:23 pm Dear Br Nathanael, What a great story! And what an experience of Amazing Grace - to accompany your mom, her sister and your grandmother into the faith and baptism into Christ. Thank you for sharing this with us. From so many of these experiences, I can see why you have defended the right to public profession of the faith so strongly and taken a stand for the right of Christians to express our faith in public domain whether it is the nativity scene on the front lawn or a monument to the Ten Commandments. As an Orthodox Christian you are on exactly the same page as Pope Leo XIII who wrote of the public witness to Christ: “it is the duty of the State to respect and cherish it, and if need be to defend it from attack”…”but we see this [public expression and profession of the faith through the Christian sodalities], however peaceful, hampered in every way, whereas the utmost liberty is conceded to individuals whose purposes are at once hurtful to our holy faith and dangerous to the State.” Pope Leo XIII, Rerum Novarum, May 15, 1891 If more Catholics (I am being generous here) decided to get off the ‘ecumenical: we respect everybody’s religion except ours’ page and onto the page of the Church’s magisterium, then more progress could be made in reclaiming the inalienable right of the Christian faith to public domain. Mark GlennMarch 30, 2008 @ 3:08 pm Congrats on another ‘must read’ piece Br. Nathanael. I truly believe that if people do not understand the issue as you put forth in this piece, than what is taking place in the world will forever remain a mystery to them. mg Joe CortinaMarch 30, 2008 @ 4:42 pm Br Nathanael Found your piece very informative. If a manlike Mark Glenn stands up for you - the i know you are the ‘ real thing’.Not sure what to say - other than my compliment for your courage as i am sure that there were many difficult obstacles. I am under the impression after a fairly long life so far - that there are a LOT of really bad people - a few very good people and a lot of in between folks. The very and very bad are easy to identify. I can identify with the ignorance and naievety of youth as i had a lengthy experience with political ideologies. I was raised Catholic ( Christian) and in a family of Democrats ( my parentswere decent people but too naieve to perceive the radical changes brought about in the Dem Party - by - of course - the Jews. I do a LOT and i do mean a LOT of geo-political analysis - so there isn’t much about major party politics that I am not familiar with. I can tell you this with 100% conviction. There are NO really Godly Christian Americans ( my age)ADULTS in the Democrat Party. I spent 23 years of my youth as an active albeit - foolish member. The Democrats were (STILL ARE)are a Party of evil in America. Sadly - Now the perverted Zionist poisoned GOP is a evil in a sligtly different bent. After 35 years as a Repub - I left it as well because of the evil stench of death there as well. I too know of things that ’smell of death’. I believe the reason that I got out of the Dems was because i was always a pretty decent man - BUT not well informed. Once I learned that marvelous magical concept - call TRUTH - i had MY ‘epiphany’.(politically anyway) Once my eyes were ‘opened’ - I realized what evil I had associated myself with and left as quickly Lott left Soddom. What I am wondering - is that can it be possible for an ethicity like the Jews - unquestionably more comparitively intelligent - could stay es evil as they are. I have spent time in Israel and in unusual circumstances that allowed me to experiene things that only VIRTUALLY a hadfull of Americans have or will ever see. I witnessed their brutality in the Occupied territories - like Gaza Hebron etc. I have experienced the horrors that humans can be quilty of in several countries ( have had lots of ex-/former military conections)but never have i seen such sadistic brutality as the conduct of the Jews. I see NO signs of TRUE repentence ANYWHERE by so much as ONE influential Jew - NONE. Men like Zola LEvitt were no more lovers of the ways of Jesus than Lenin. I am not easily fooled by his kind of treacherous duplicity. One need but LISTEN to the rantings of his wife to learn tha there was NO wisdom involved in his so -called conversion. I found the Israelis even more brutal and evil that the worst of the Marxists I have encountered (and I have seen some of the worst of the worst) I have witnessed the Jews destroy everything that once loved and cherished about being an American and it leaves a LOT Of scars - anger - sadness and despair. You may think this too harsh - but I believe with all my heart and soul that unless Israel is destroyed the world will NEVER EVER know any lasting peace and America will NEVER ever again be in the graces of God. Do you see any solution - any hope? If we continue on this present path I cannot even bear to immagine what will be the results of our Godless conduct. really no longer want to live here as it is now. This is NOT The country of my youth - and there is little TRUE Christian sentiment left - only the insane antics of foolish men who mock the teachings and lessons of Christ. May God protect and guide you Most Sincerely - Joe Cortina adminMarch 30, 2008 @ 6:08 pm Dear Joe Cortina, Thank you for you commment and pouring your heart out for all of us to hear. I invite you and encourage you dear Joe to continue posting here as I feel you have a lot to offer. Hope? Oh yes, I do see hope for the future of our great nation America. I am on the streets of America everyday and I can tell you that the youth of America are hungering for Christ, for purity, for sincerity, and Truth. Yes, there’s hope for America. As far as Israel is concerned, the land was gotten by the Jews by theft, bribery of the Great Powers and politicians, and murder. Many Israelis are now dual citizens of America and have come and remained here for the Almighty Dollar. All the Israelis should be repatriated and the Palestinians should get their lands and groves back. And may the “disappearing” Arab Christians return to Palestine and build a viable, Christian society in the Holy Land. Long live the Jerusalam Patriarchate my Church! Brother Nathanael anonMarch 30, 2008 @ 6:10 pm What’s this Saul or Taurus thing? adminMarch 30, 2008 @ 6:13 pm Dear Anon, “Saul of Tarsus:” St Paul’s name before he became a Christian. +BN Ken DuttonMarch 30, 2008 @ 8:15 pm If more jews converted to Christians and apllied the teachings of Christ, I am convinced the nwo would not exist today. Keep up the good work! TheodoraMarch 30, 2008 @ 8:48 pm Hi Brother Nathanael. Isn’t it true that the first Christians WERE Jews? Isn’t it true that millions of jews even existed in Egypt many, many years ago? Could you explain this if you have the answers? Thank you. adminMarch 30, 2008 @ 9:18 pm Of course the first Christians were FORMER Jews. Jews were in Alexandria as well. We no longer use these distinctions that only serve to divide us as St Paul teaches: “We are no longer Jews, Gentiles, Greeks, slaves, masters, male, or female, but we are one in Christ.” That’s why the first believers called themselves CHRISTIANS. +bn jakeMarch 30, 2008 @ 9:27 pm So let me get this straight: You think Jesus was born from a virgin, turned water into wine, died on a cross for all of our sins and then rose from the dead. That’s pretty far-out stuff. Can I have some of what you’re smoking? Lorraine HenneberryMarch 30, 2008 @ 9:31 pm What are you people afraid of? Jesus was a Jew if you don’t know duh!! Its a religion like all the rest and has been interepted to suit whoever has written it. Give us a break, I’m so sick of having this stuff shoved down our throats the sooner we get rid of all religion the better off we’ll all be. It’s a case of whose got the biggest member, and that is a particular male thing. Saul changed his name to Paul and went and ruined it all. adminMarch 30, 2008 @ 9:31 pm Dear jake, Of course this is “far out stuff.” The virgin birth, the miracles of Jesus Christ, His death and resurrection have come to us from Heaven. Smoking? I imbibe the Holy Scriptures which in the OT predicted the virgin birth, the miracles of Jesus Christ and His death and Resurrection. And I imbibe in the NT which reveals our deliverance from our sins, death, and eternal damnation. +Brother Nathanael adminMarch 30, 2008 @ 9:35 pm Dear Lorraine Henneberry, Why do I detect “bitterness” informing your diatribe against the most beautiful man Who ever lived, Jesus Christ? St Paul was beautiful too as he encouraged Christiand “to be followers of him as he was to Christ.” Christianity is the ONLY religion in which the PERSONAL God of Heaven reaches out to man offering forgiveness of sins. For after we die it will be too late. +Brother Nathanael TheodoraMarch 30, 2008 @ 9:55 pm Jake, would you be more inclined to believe one who says he/she was abducted by an alien and was impregnated? It amazes me how some have actually claimed these things, and yet, many have a problem in believing in the virgin birth. God can do ANYTHING!!! You exist, don’t you? You’re here, aren’t you? Gee, Jake, how did you get here? Oh, now I figured it out. You came in a spaceship from another galaxy. StarMarch 30, 2008 @ 10:02 pm Can you tell if there is any truth to the claims that Christianity is a religion of hate? I mean, Jesus was really a kind, loving person in many ways, but since I haven’t studied the New Testament at any depths, I can’t tell for sure if there is any basis for the Jews’ claims that Christianity is a hateful religion or not. Maybe they are misinterpreting something he said, or why else are they so resentful towards JC? TheodoraMarch 30, 2008 @ 10:02 pm Lorraine, the minute YOU and everyone else who objects to the Godhead decide to abolish ALL religion, is the day that you and everyone else will believe anything that comes their way. Next you’ll start believing that all people are categorized into groups, such as caterpillars, mammals, and amphibious beings. Give me a break! adminMarch 30, 2008 @ 10:04 pm Dear Star, You wrote: “I can’t tell for sure if there is any basis for the Jews’ claims that Christianity is a hateful religion or not.” See my article, “Why The Jews Hate Jesus Christ” @ http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=34 +BN StarMarch 30, 2008 @ 10:27 pm OK, thank you. I read that article. So Jews have a problem with moral aurhority, is that it? In that case it seems difficult to follow even the Old Testament, and especially the ten commandments. What you’re saying is basically that Jews act like rebelling teenagers in a sense, but with the difference in that they refuse to grow up. Am I correct in assuming this? adminMarch 30, 2008 @ 10:49 pm Stars - Jews want the control as Masters, not as teenagers. Jews fear Christianity more than any other thing. The Christian World Order once ran the world but the Jews started warring against the Christian World Order beginning in 1649 when they funded Cromwell to execute Charles I. See my article “How The Jews Took Great Britain” @ http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=86 And: “Time Line Of Jewish World Dominance” @ http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=140 +bn BlueMarch 30, 2008 @ 10:54 pm I was wondering how you reconcile the existence of so many similarities between the Egyptian occult traditions and Christianity? I am having much trouble with this myself. See, Osiris was born of ‘virgin birth’ and was crucified and rose again etc.. ….and so too in Sumarian text, their god was also virgin born and died and rose again…its a very very ancient story…easily studied and correlated to present day religions if one studies with an open mind. Its just that when you do examine things, the entire Christian and most of the Jewish symbolic story is taken straight from those Sumarian and Egyptian texts….even so far as the ten commandments themslves are straight out of the Egyptian book of the dead - : there to be read by anyone not just taken on my say so! So…how do you reconcile this without feeling like a fraud or hypocrite? Some days when I say I am a follower of Christ i feel the burden of that knowledge..and feel just like that..fraudulent..hypocritical. I want to believe..and like any human of faith I desire to be ’saved’ by God and partake in eternal life..but I do not want to be lied to..and if being saved/eternal life is only on offer via becoming or adhering to doctrine that compels me to be a judgmental self hating person, or is at the expense of humanity, then its nothing more than a bribe isn’t it? I ask because I do not wish be led astray and be led clapping and singing alleluias into the arms of the abyss by a lying adversary. I recall it is written that the adversary/satan deceives the WHOLE world..not just the Jews or the gentiles..- everybody…and i have to admit to a very intuitive fear that he is using religions as a whole to do that. It is written Jesus defeated death…he didn’t destroy it…and I fear very much that so many are being led to death and lied to, to their destruction through this often manic desire for eternal life-after-death that they are confusing immortal with eternal life and missing the point of the Jesus message - the value of existence WITH God - in the present day. sigh. hope i haven’t offended..just religiously fatigued I guess..if there was a question there i’ve forgotten it..kudos to you though for challenging your own belief systems..if only more would. peace Blue Didn’t God/the Lord bring us OUT of Egypt? If so..why do all our current religous traditions still reflect those old stories and ways, and not an entirely new belief system? TheodoraMarch 30, 2008 @ 11:03 pm It seems that many people have a problem with moral authority, not just in the United State but elsewhere as well. This is what has happened to our Nation. It has been divided. A good example of this is the “Hate Crimes Bill”. If everyone followed the Ten Commandments, which one of the commandments states: Do unto others as you would have them do unto you, we wouldn’t need this Bill. Nobody should make fun of others, no matter what. A Jew should not go spitting in the faces of Orthodox priests, and vise versa. A black-American should not call a white person a “Honkie”. A white person should not call a Mexican a “Beaner”, a white American should not call a black person a “niger”. American University professsors should not refer to the white race of America as “You gringos deserve to die. You are no longer making babies as we are.” “You European Americans deserve to die.” We are all people of God. All God asks is that we have respect and understanding for each other. Many Jews eventually WILL receive the Lord as their saviour. Many others will as well. There’s HOPE!!! And, without HOPE, you have nothing!!! LyndaMarch 30, 2008 @ 11:03 pm “Saul changed his name to Paul and went and ruined it all” You know, Theodora I don’t think Lorraine’s message is really about the “sooner we get rid of all religion the better off we’ll all be.” If Br. Nathanael was telling us about how he left his familial religion of money worshippers or self worhsippers or his football tribe and its tribal gods and became a Jehovah’s witness or a Tibetan Bhuddist or a scientific fundamentalist, I seriously doubt she would have a problem with his story. Bet you 1 whole dollar there is only one religion she really opposes. adminMarch 30, 2008 @ 11:21 pm Dear Blue, St Jusin Martyr of the 2nd Century points out in his “Dialogue With Trypo The Jew” that paganism had borrowed much from the Old Testament predictions of the Messiah. Thus you had “Hercules” a “strong man to run the race,” which is from the OT. “Defeated” death or “destroy” death? Christ both deafeated death AND destroyed death. That is why we say that Christians “fall asleep” and not “he or she died.” That is why there are so many Christian martyrs throughout the centuries. Because we Christians do not fear death but see dying or rather “falling asleep” as great gain! +BN FennizarMarch 30, 2008 @ 11:46 pm Hello. I have read this and the related comments, but it leaves me wondering something. Brother, what are your views on Islam? I simply wonder due to my own affinity with it. I am not a member, but someone I love dearly is, born and raised. Really, I love her enough that it is likely I would convert to it, although I am not particularly religious. However, I do believe in God and Jesus, I dislike the organized aspects of all religion…they seem to simply serve to corrupt the true intention, bent it to the will of man instead of God. TheodoraMarch 30, 2008 @ 11:52 pm You’re right Brother Nathanael. With as much coffee as I drink, I’m lucky to get any sleep. TheodoraMarch 30, 2008 @ 11:55 pm If we die according to God’s timing, so be it. On the other hand, thank God for Second Amendment Rights. LyndaMarch 31, 2008 @ 12:58 am “I was wondering how you reconcile the existence of so many similarities between the Egyptian occult traditions [and Sumerian texts] and Christianity?” Dear Blue, anyone who can raise the kind of questions you are asking is ready to study the cultural dimensions of the Christian faith and enter into a ‘mind to mind’ with some of the literary greats of the West. These are the Christians who really understood mythology, the Secret Doctrine of the ancient mysteries, poetry and philosophy. Their whole lives were about living their Christian faith, but in their day jobs, they were occupied in teaching these subjects at places like Oxford and Cambridge. And they formed a study group for talking and writing about just the questions you are asking. This group was called the Inklings and(together with their own favourite authors),they met at the Eagle and Child pub in Oxford and became a powerhouse of Christian reflection, literature and poetry and witness. The questions you raise are fascinating (not fearful) because they open up to us fascinating subject matter. Instead of feeling like a hypocrite for raising these excellent questions, why lot feel like a learner and a teacher? Let me share with you some essays that are right of your alley. Some of my personal favourites: “Now as myth (any myth) transcends thought, Incarnation transcends myth.” C.S. Lewis (1944) “Myth became Fact”. God in the Dock. Fount Paperbacks. 1979. In consideration of mythologies and the Gospel,”it has long been my feeling (a joyous feeling) that God redeemed the corrupt ‘making’ creatures - men - in a way fitting to this aspect , as to others of our strange nature. The Gospels do contain a ‘myth’ if you will - that is, the Gospel is that type of story, a larger kind of story. But as history, the Gospel embraces the essence of all myths or fairy stories.” A hallmark of these ‘larger stories’ is that “they contain many marvels - peculiarly artistic, beautiful and moving: “mythical” in their perfect, self-contained significance; and among the marvels is the eucatastrophe.” (a catastrophe with a sudden joyous turn of events - salvific). But the Great Story, God’s Great Story has broken “into History and the primary world; the desire and so the aspiration of man-made stories, their catastrophes and eucatastrophes find fulfillment in God’s Great Story.” “The Birth of Christ is the supreme eucatastrophe of Man’s history. The Resurrction is the eucatastrophe of the story of the Incarnation. This story begins in joy and ends in joy.” “There is no man made tale ever told that men would rather find was true and none which so many skeptical men have accepted as true on its own merits. For the Art of it has the supremely convincing tone of Primary Art, that is the Art of the Creator Himself, His creation. To reject the Great Story, the Gospel, that is at the centre of His Art leads to sadness or to wrath.” J.R.R. Tolkien “On Fairy Stories” The Tolkien Reader. Ballantine. 1966. If you like to think these kind of thoughts, Blue, why not read C.S. Lewsis, J.R.R. Tolkien, Fr. Gerald Vann, G.K. Chesterton. A Christian polity or civilization has Christian Art and Letters. Not the awful stuff that is peddled today because we have been brainwashed into materialism and naturalism. The culture of our society has a very low horizon. In his War of the gods and demons” The Everlasting Man, G.K. Chesterton satirizes this outlook: “The materialist theory of history, that all politics and ethics are the expression of economics (dialectical materialism) is a very simple fallacy indeed. It consists simply of confusing the necessary conditions of life with the preoccupations of life, that are quite a different thing. It is like saying that because man walks on two legs, therefore, he never walks about except to buy shoes.” If you open these books, Blue, with the questions you have - believe me, a great adventure awaits you. jamesMarch 31, 2008 @ 1:07 am Interesting about Saul. I guess the messanger is of equal importance if not greater than the person delivering the message. Suprised Constantine isn’t really mentioned much as if it wasn’t for him converting Rome to Christianity achieving military conquest under the christian banner Europe would not be Christian. RichardMarch 31, 2008 @ 2:11 am I feel sorry for all of you, discussing some person who never existed. Jesus is a fiction, as is the entire bible. Fabricated to keep people divided and arguing and killing. A much easier task to conquer a humanity divided. The technique of infamy is to present two lies, and then get people arguing over which one is true. I forget now which literary great said that, but it rings true for me. Might I suggest this site, and these good people for Jews and non-Jews alike? http://www.nkusa.org/